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    Posted: Jan 27 2010 at 11:16am
I'm posting this as Chuckie is lagging on posting, and we are overseeing him on this project.
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To start, on Saturday 1-24-2010 Charlie said he was looking for a project to do as on this day there was a few of us working on little projects out at the club. After kicking around a few thoughts on projects, he said; "why don't  (I) get the little 1" out of the club house and look at fixing her up to run."
 
Charilie on Little Engines 0-4-0 Camelback Steam LocomotiveNow that project seamed to be a good fit, so Rory and I told him to go take a look at it and off he went. After a bit of time Charlie was back with the tender from the loco and was telling us it was a go on this project and < we> need to get started. So after some talk about how < we > got put into this project and how <he> would see this project gets done right, off Rory and Charlie went to get one of Rory's flat cars out to move the locomotive. Charlie and Rory loaded the camel back on to the flat car and moved it to the steaming bays. We where already there working on the bench project so we could get him started without pulling off the on going bench thing.
 
First thing we had Charlie do was to closely look at the loco and see what was missing. Rory helped him with this. Charlie had talked to a few older members that had run it in the past and they had given him some info and mentioned things that needed to be fixed or replaced before it could run again.
 
First off on his list was to get it unstuck as it has been sitting a long time so the pistons were stuck and the rods / wheels would not move. Rory got some WD40 and I showed Charlie how to pull the sniffer valves out so he could lube up the cylinders. After a little tapping on the back of the rod she freed up and was rolling on the steaming bays.
 
Next we worked at removing the cab, showing Charlie how to go about this slowly and not mess things up as we have no info on how this loco was built. The whistle valve was stuck open so Rory and I pulled it apart and lubed it up. It freed up but looks like it may need some work. We just have to see how it is under steam.
 
Rory and Charlie went  all around the loco, tracing out the plumbing to see where all of the lines went. I went looking for some fittings so we could get it running on air. After a bit of head scratching we had the loco up on blocks and running on air. We then went hunting for air leaks in the valves and plumbing. After some lubing and tapping on stuck valves, the loco seemed to run good and the timing also sounded good.
 
Tim stopped by and gave us some more info on things to look at that may need to be fixed. Charlie, Rory, and now Phil got the whistle adjusted reinstalled and sounding good. At about this time, Steve came over and started working on the boiler check valve and some other small items on the loco.
 
Next we got Charlie to run around the club and find some old rail to mount on top of the flat car and after showing him the art of using a hacksaw we had the loco back on the flat car so it can be pulled out and worked on when we have time.
 
Charlie has made a list of items needing to be fixed, cleaned and or, replaced for the loco. Next after cleaning the pop off valve and injector we will give it a boiler pressure test, as the tag says the last one was in 1998. If it fails we will stop working on it but I'm thinking it will pass just fine as it looks to be a well built boiler. I went over a box of plumbing and fittings I have for the LULU II project and have found a set of auto cylinder cocks and a rotary blow down valve that we can use to replace the missing ones. Hopefully they well fit and we have to two big ticket items out of the way.
 
Maybe this weekend we  can get some more time to help Charlie get this loco running.
 
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Edited by PhilC - Jan 31 2010 at 4:39am
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yea! will be seeing you donw this weekend and will pull it out again and do a good final look over and boiler test. Probably take off the injector and clean that as who nows whats acimulated in there after x some years. Also <I> (we)  need to look at the axel pum. Think i'll need some help on this as the axel pump is one thing im not that greatly educated in. I here it has some problems but watever. It will get fixed. Also, LA has meet in May I think we can shoot for and that would be fun to go to. I'd like to talk to some guys about mayb even just putting down a small section to run on but idk how that will go over and would be costly!
 
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whos comming down this weekend?
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I will be there Saturday. You will need to fix the boiler check valve before you can hydro the boiler.
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I will bring the acid down to soak the injectors  and check valves on both this and Mark's loco.
 
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ok probably be down around 11.
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I'll be there and have Wyatt in tow with me, I will bring the valves and some fittings, tap/dies. We will see how far we get. I will bring my welder for marks' track shelf thing. I also need to make a road trip down to the old so cal club site at the Lomita site, as I got asked to get some sizes and photos of the tool box on the caboose for a man building one in 1.5, that lives up north. I haven't been there in som time so I thought it would be fun.
 
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How everything go yesterday? Wasn't able to make it down as my dad needed me for something with an AC job hes doen for a freind. Did anyone get around to boiler testing it though?

 
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I did the boiler test and it looks good, but we could not get the check valve for the axle pump to seat. After playing with it for some time we removed it. Tim has a new one but it's a little different so Tim's going to make some fittings so it will work. I'm thinking that had a lot to do with the axle pump not working as it might have been blowing back pressure from the boiler. We did get it up to 165 psi and the fire box and front sheet didn't have any leaks, so I'd say its good to go. We just need to get the plumbing cleaned up and check valves working and retest it to get a pass tag. I got the pop off valve cleaned and tested and it's set at 110 -115 psi which might be a little high, as I don't think the little injector will work at that much pressure, but we'll see. I have taken the injector home and some of the plumbing to clean and fix it. Looks like we need a new pressure gauge as the one on the loco is off on a curve. It's not bad on low psi, but its way off on high psi. I need to get one for Lulu so I will just get two. Steve helped with the boiler test, but it was starting to drive him nuts as it seemed like any thing on the plumbing we touched broke or came apart. But that's just the way it goes on old plumbing. The cylinder cocks I had did not fit and I don't think they will work so I m thinking of making some new ones. It looks like one of the grates is missing in the fire box and it looks like we need to make an ash pan. Hmmm...looks like the work list is getting bigger not smaller. Steve got the shag 4-4-0 out and I helped him give It a boiler  test. We found that  the top of the steam dome needs to be resealed and the whistle valve needs to be cleaned as we could only get it up to 120 psi before the leaks on the top of the boiler made it look like a lawn sprinker, but same as the little loco the fire box and front sheet were dry which is a good sign. Looks like we will try to get that one up and running as it might be some fun to run.  It would be a bummer to put a bunch of time into it only to have Shags son sell it - what do we get out of it ?

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Ya, well good to hear it passed boiler test! I'm really looking forward to getting it running again. Hopefully the other valves and plumbing don't mess with us and we don't run into timing problems or parts of the infrastructure! Just a lot of little annoying things broken! Shags engine would be more favored by me to get fixed though as we can actually run it at the club. Would be nice to get some 1 inch set up and maybe find some other people that might wanna come down and do that but then we got a million other problems...just like any other hobby though.

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