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1-14-12

   Saturday Howie and tom downing built 4, 15 foot track panels then made up a work train with 4 ballast cars and two gons with tools. They filled the ballast cars up and put two track panels on top of the cars and backed up Crenshaw so the two end dump car where facing outbound. That way the ballast cars can be just backed down to where to track stops and the stone can be pushed off the cars to fill the 14" deep low spot and it seemed to work good, after one small derail on the old Crenshaw return switch. After the first trip down and the cars and were emptied tom and Howie went over to the farmers market and got some BBQ sandwiches and they were good.

   The farmers market is held every Wednesday and Saturday till 1:00 in the parking lot just on the other side of the ball fields from where the Crenshaw line is and there’s a gate in the fence near were we were working so it all worked out good. there’s always been a dream at the club to run the SoCal tracks over there and back thought the park and back to the club and there looks to be a somewhat clear pathway to do it, but it’s just a nice dream at this point.

   After lunch we went back and got one more train load of ballast and one more track panel. After that train was unloaded we were starting to run low on daylight but it looked like we only needed two more cars of ballast stone to get the track bed up to level and with rain forecast for the next day Howie and Tom decided to go for it and work in to the night.

   After getting the stone dumped we removed the three track panels we had put down to empty the cars we relayed the track from the end of the steel rail on the far side of the gap back to the switch. This was done so there would be a full track panel first after coming off the steel track and we wouldn’t end up with a joint in the turn close to where the steel rail starts. After we got the rail put back in Shane and Phil showed up with Shane’s kids and they unloaded the last car of ballast which was good as Howie and Tom were about done and didn’t think they were going to get it done. Boy that was one long day of work.

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Sunday afternoon Tom Downing went out on Crenshaw with a small work train of two gons with tools. He installed 2x4 ties under the joints where the 15 foot track panels come together on the track that was installed on Saturday. He then adjusted the track panels so there was a nice S bend to it from the switch to the steel rail he then leveled the track across the rails and worked at getting the track level from the switch to the steel rail but there’s so much fill, 14 " in spots that we have found out in the past that it’s going to need leveling few times as in time the ballast will compact.

At this point the sun had gone down and it as getting dark but, where the steel rail starts is also where the street lights start on the street next to the railroad so he had light to work. Tom finish the day by raking off some of the ballast laid down by the boy scouts last year so we can see the tops of the steel ties and there was a lot of leaves and small tree branches that had built up on this track as we haven’t been running on it for the past year. Boy this track looks good now!

Tom worked the track all the way past the two switches where the two sidings begin and stopped for the day as it started to rain, good thing he brought his rain coat for the wet ride back to the yard. Next time tom will look at the placing of these switches, as Rory said the old rule of thumb is there should be one car length between these two switches as it makes a double S-turn in a long train and it may derail. So tom is thinking of moving one switch down towards the turn table, and one 20' track panel but we will have to measure the length of the siding and we may end up moving the upper switch which is a lot more work, but in the end it will be for the best, well, time will tell.

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1-22-12

Sunday afternoon Tom Downing set up a 3 car work train, made up of two gons for tools and one long flat with an end dump box on it. Tom filled the end dump with a load of ballast rock and ran it out the new track, that was installed last weekend and added some ballast to the sides of the rail bed to help keep the track in place. We had a few small rain storms but the track didn’t look like it had settled much maybe when the trains start running on it the track will sink a little.

Then Tom took the train to the switch set down at the end of the line and realined the switches and lubed the moving parts of the switches. He then raked all the stuff off the left track and set the side to side level so we can run trains all the way to the end. Although a few members have already ran on the rough track.

Tom then pulled all the large weeds next to the tracks some were dead ones from last year and some were new green ones, most were two feet high and very thick, but it was a good time to pull them as the ground was soft from the rain we had here last week. Tom put the last of the ballast from the end dump car on to the right side track and then filled the empty car with some of the bush he had piled up. It looks like the right side track will have to come up 6-10 inches to be closer to the height of the left side track, but we were thinking to get this track to drop down after the switch and then go up from there to the turntable, which will make the track level as the ground around it, since the track is going downhill maybe 1-1.5% at this point. Its was getting dark so Tom worked at clearing the return track back to the tunnel and called it a day. Next weekend Tom is hoping to get some help to haul some ballast to use on the two end sidings and haul all the dead weeds and tree limbs that have piled up along the Crenshaw right of way back to the bush pile set up by the club house. If there’s time it would also be good to build a frame to hold up the live tree limbs that make up the tunnel.

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Saturday 1-28-12

   We had a work crew made up of Donna, Howie, Rory, and Tom. The day started with trying to get some small projects done around the club grounds. Tom got two gallonss of weed killer concentrate at Wal-Mart to try out. Tom started spraying the infield loop of track and then Rory took his turn and got the rest of the main part of the club layout sprayed.

    We than setup a work with the clubs green sw1500, Rory’s two bottom drop hoppers, two end dump boxes on Rory’s and Toms flat cars, and the two old Little Engines gons with tools and a riding car. Rory and Howie spotted the train on the drive way water siding and Tom took the club tractor and filled the cars with ballast.
 
    Then different members from around the club that were working on different projects sat down and had a nice steak and rice lunch made by Robert, which was a nice surprise. Robert sad he had read on here how Tom was out on Crenshaw working by himself and felt it would be good to come by and BBQ up some steaks to say thanks for the hard work, and it was much appreciated thanks Robert.
 
    After lunch we ran the work train out to the end of Crenshaw and dumped the ballast on the center track of the two passing tracks at the end of the line. I was thinking it was going to take a lot of ballast to get the two tracks up to the same level. But after dumping the four cars it doesn’t look like it will. It might only take one more train load and it will be good to go till we get the turn table in and need to adjust the track for that.
 
    Next we filled the empty cars with the bushes and weeds that Tom had piled up last weekend and hauled it back to the brush pile set up by the club house. Tom sprayed around the tracks with some weed killer as new weeds are starting to grow on the tracks, at some point we will have to run the club tractor down to the end of the line and fill what looks like will be several train loads of old wood chips. Then run it back to where the new depot is as the wood chips are too thick by the end of the track and you have to step up on a hill of wood chips when you get off the train.
 
    At some point  in time, down the road we would like to put a few gates and a loading platform at the end of Crenshaw, but we will have to see if the park people are O K with that first. There’s still a lot of weeds to be hauled back to the pile as we would like to get Crenshaw clean looking and plant a few tree along the right of way to make it a more enjoyable ride on the hot days.
 
    On Sunday 1-29-12 tom came out in the morning and sprayed weed killer on the Crenshaw line tracks from the depot to the switch where the two tracks meet going out. Steve Claude stopped by for a bit to replaces some burnt out lights in the station.  There is a big crop of weeds on this part of the line so it looks like some weed whacking will need to be done. We’re hoping the weed killer helps keep the weeds down.

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3-11-12 Saturday Rory Hawkins and Tom Downing built a new framework to hold up the bushes that make a tunnel over the track located about 100 feet down from the windshield wiper turn around point.

Phil Cohen and Tom had built a light frame out of some old 1x4 and 2x4 but it was falling down as the bush is now getting big. I think it was also getting some help falling down from the local kids, Oh well.

Rory and Tom got what was left of the wood pile for this job which Tom had brought out to the club a few months back as some of it got used for other jobs going on at the club.

Rory set up a work train and they went out with Tom's son Wyatt running Rory's S12 loco to the tunnel and removed what was left of the old frame and took some measurements. They then went back to the yard and while Tom ran Wyatt to a school class down the street, Rory loaded the wood and some bricks on the train.

When Tom got back he cut 4, 4x4 beams to 6 foot long and also cut some 2x4s, 24" long with 45 degree cuts on the ends for braces on the top of the post. Tom then had to run and get Wyatt from his class. When they got back they all went out to the tunnel and set up the post with a big 12 foot long hard wood 4x6 that tom found laying around at the club which made a great header. They then ran a 2x6x12 along the fence with a 2x4 post on each end. They then cut 2 ea., 2x4 cross beams and screwed it all together. We had a battery saw with us to cut the 2x4s, and that worked great for the job.

When that was done, Tom made a list of wood to be purchased. Rory and his girl friend Donna ran to get lunch for the group and Tom ran to the Lowes' down the street and got some 4x4x12s, 2x4x12s, corrugated metal roofing sheets and some pilaster post bottoms so they could get the job done. After lunch Wyatt ran his brother and mom around the club on the club's SW1500 while Rory and Tom set two more posts and put the pilaster bottoms under the post they had put in before lunch.

Tom and Rory then put on the braces with the 45 degree cut ends on the post tops connecting them to the headers. They then put in a few more cross beams and set the 24" wide metal roofing on top. This was done to try to stop the random sparks from the steam locos from setting the under side of the bush, which is the top of the tunnel, on fire.  And we all know that would not be a good thing.

By this time it was getting dark, so we cleaned up and put the train away. There is still some bracing that needs to be put on and the 2x4 post need to be wired to the fence post, but it looks good at this point and the bush is growing fast so the sides and ends should aslo fill in fast.

The large wood beam should hold the weight better this time and should be "kid proof" but we will see on that one.

We are thinking of building one more12 foot long frame about 12 foot from the end of the tunnel the we had just built as there is one more big bush growing over the fence at that point. That would make it so when you ride up the line and you go though a 22 foot long bush tunnel then a 12 foot long clearing and then back in to a 12 foot long bush tunnel. I have just got to keep the other well meaning members from cutting the bush limbs before I get the frame built to hold them up.

Oh well will see on that one,

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Well tunnel number two is up! This all happened as Howie called me (Tom Downing) on Thursday night and asked me, "if I had the time, could we work on the Crenshaw line Saturday" as he had the time.  So on Saturday after my son Wyatt and I ran around and got some parts for my race car project, we got to the club about 9 am and Howie was already working on a few of his own projects. Linda was also there working on her gardens.

I had a few things that needed to be done before we did the Crenshaw work. I put a new light sensor on the new yard light Steve and I put up a few weeks back, as it was staying on all the time. It took three trys to get it working! As it turns out the other two light sensors in the box I found in the club work shop were no good!.

After droping Wyatt at his Saturday school class I ran to Lowes and got a new one and it worked great. About this time, Steve C showed up with his son Nicholas to take a walk around the club as Nicholas has just started too walk, and take a train ride on the F7.

Kelly Smith and His son Jeff also showed up to check how a test piece of crown molding looked on there depot project.  I also had to jack up and shim up one side of Rory and my car barn ( Shipping Container), as the pin on the door lock was not fitting on the  new door lock we put on after getting broken into last year. Howie ended up doing the shimming job as he was waiting for me as I had to take a break from the job to run down the street to get Wyatt from his class.

Howie had the work train all set up and we then cut up a few 2x4s for the 45 degree braces for the tunnel then Howie drove the train as Wyatt and I cleared the downed branchs off the track out to the tunnel which we had built a few weeks back.

You may ask why we are building one more tunnel? Well there is a line of large bushes growing over the fence next to the track and If we build a frame with a roof the bush grows over the fance and the frame and than hangs down over the sides making a tunnel or snow shed for us to run the trains though. It also gives us a brake form the sun which can get very hot in the summertime.

This second frame is about 20 feet further up the line from the first one we built and is 12 feet long. The line of bushes between the two tunnels  is starting to grow up, but is just getting to the top of the fence so were thinking we will come back in the fall and build another  frame to fill in the 20 feet between the two tunnels.

Well we got all the wood laid out and came up with a plan on how to build the tunnel but it was lunch time. So we all went over to the farmers market which is in the parking lot just on the other side of Wilson Park from ware we were working.  Howie got a chicken stir fry thing and Wyatt and I got some chicken tacos. We came back and eat some of it but went back to work after eating only a few bites as we just wanted to get the job going after all of the running around we had been doing all morning.

We set up the 2x4 frame against the fence and dug the holes though the wood chips for the pilaster to set the 4x4 post and header on the right side of the tunnel. About this time Phil C came walking up the Crenshaw line and Wyatt had to walk back to the yard to get the F7 out and give his mom, my wife Maria and his younger brother Everett a ride around the club before he had to go with them to his violin class.

It didn't seem to take too long to get the cross pieces for the  frame  cut and up and the two pieces of 12 foot long corrugated metal roofing set on top when Wyatt showed up with the F7 with his mom and brother as riders so we had them do a run though the new tunnel to test it out and get their feedback on it.

On the new tunnel we had built we put the roof all the way across the top and on the older tunnel we had only put one piece in the middle of the top thinking it would stop any sparks from the steam locos for setting the underside of the bush on fire. But our test riders sad they liked the tunnel with the full roof much better as theres no little branches hanging down from the top of the tunnel.

Well now things started to get funny, as it seemed,  we needed a little humor to break up all the hard work going on. Maria asked for Wyatt's and my left over tacos from lunch as he was getting hungry so I gave the box with them in them to her and being a Mom the first thing she does is open the box and tries the tacos to see how they taste, and as shes taking a bite we told her they were good but  look out mine was a little HOT but it takes a minute for the heat to kick in ( yes maybe a little late on the HOT warring ). I told Maria the lady I got the taco from had mild, hot, and "OOO la la",and that was "OOO la la" as I like it hot, and of course she says it can't be that bad I can take it Boys. Well as a minute goes by she said "hey that bit I took is starting too get hot" and phil said "we have bottled water with us do you wont one" and I said "I didn't need any water with my taco you just got to man up and take it" and she says "no I'm fine I have water with me but I don't need it BOYS, we need to go back Now". So Wyatt backs up to the wiper turn table and she says "how long is that going to take we need to get going back NOW" and I tell her just a minute and we will get the loco turned and they well be on there way.  She looks at me and says, "TOM THAT TACO WAS WAY TOO HOT, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU AND THIS HOT STUFF THING". So I ask do you need me to get you a water and she says "no I have one on the riding car somewhere but I'm OK!" and I can tell he shes not looking OK and by now Phil and Howie are starting to laugh.

Well we get the loco turned and they head back down the line and I tell Phil and Howie lets see how far they get before they stop as I saw her bottle  of  water  was in the front of the riding car and shes in the back and I know that taco heat is coming on and there is no way they are going to make it back with out her needing water. Well we just keep looking as they went back and they got maybe 3/4 way which is maybe 800 feet and we see  her start waving her hands around and Wyatt hands the water back to her and shes drinking it and shaking her head.

Well after that Phil and I went back to the yard to cut some more 2x4s for braces,  got one more piece of metal roofing that Tim had left over from a project and brought out to the club for us, and got my impact driver to put the screws in as they were going in very hard in the dry wood we were using for the braces.

Howie had stayed at the tunnel and pulled a lot of the big weeds that were growing around the tracks out there. OK now comes the Love story  part of the day: When we got back  I told Howie he would fall in love with the impact driver and he said we had been using my drill all day and it had been good we will see about this impact driver thing. Well I think he did, as he put most of the braces up by himself with it, all the screws to hold the roofing on and said he was going to stop and buy one like it on his way home. Wow!

After talking with Rory Friday he suggested  I clean out all the wood chips from around the tracks in the tunnel so there is just gravel, thinking it will reduce the chance of fire, so I did that and it just looked a lot cleaner in the tunnel.

Next howie and Phil put the tools back on the work train as  I pulled more big weeds working my way towards the end of the line before it got too dark. We went back and put every thing away locked up and Phil and I went to Texas Looseys for some burgers and beer.

Well next I think we will go back and put more metal roofing on the top of the first tunnel we built so the roof is fully covered and add some more 45 braces to the post. Next we will start to get the turn table built and reset the track on the Y by the new depot.

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These tunnels are looking good. I am thinking maybe we should put one over the passing siding so waiting trains have some shade in the summer. It can get mighty hot down there in the summer waiting for a train. I think our longest train is about 40' so it would have to be a little bit longer to provide enough shade. 
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4-1-12 Run day, Tom Downing took the weed whacker and spent a few hours cutting the weeds along the Crenshaw line so the trains didn't have to mow though the weeds and to keep the riders from getting hit on the sides by the larger weeds that grew up after the rain we have had here in the past few weeks.

We have been working on ways to get a weed killer that works and doesn't cost a lot and take a lot of time but nothing has worked out for us.

On Friday  4-6-12, Mark Jordan set up a work train and cleared off all the brush and old stump parts that had built up at the end of the line were the turn table will be going in.

Next we will have to level out the ground (after we fix the steering on the club tractor) and figure out were a the center pin and the ring rails will go for the table. Mark said next he will work on getting the two lead tracks that go to the table level this is being done as the ground here looks to be going down hill as lest 1%.

On Saturday 4-7-12 Tom Downing and his son Wyatt removed the track and one switch which make up the turn up to Crenshaw from the main line. This had to be done as a few of the bigger locos at the club didn't look like they were going to make it around the turn with out derailing. The path of the track on the turn we put in was D shaped and had too tight a radius in spots along its route so it had to be relaid.

Tom took the club tractor and cleaned off all the weeds and wood chips where the track was going to be put down.He then set the track back down on the new road bed and started to  adjust it by loosening the tie screws on the inside rail so the track would move a little to fit the new radius of the turn. After playing with the track by kicking it back and forth a few times with poor results in obtaining the correct radius, Tom went and rolled a new piece of rail with the correct radius to use as a guide. Tom used the tightest radius turn at the club that these larger locos run on as a guide when rolling this pieces of rail, hoping that way they will work out when the turn is done.

Well after Tom took a lunch break at Steve's Burgers and helped Tim and Phil with a few other on going projects at the club that day such as cleaning up trash, hauling stuff to the dumpster, and helping unload a new refrigerator for the club. Tom and now Phil Cohen went back to trying to get the track radius to look right.

The big thing that made all this hard was the return track and the outbound track come very close at the end of this turn. We had to Keep moving the start of the turn in the track closer to the main line switch which in turn moved the track closer to the new depot. A few inches each way at the beginning of the turn made a big difference at the end of the 110 foot turn.

About this time Tim Brothers showed up after working all day on other club projects, looked things over and suggested we loosen the screw's on the out side rail of the track panels and get all the ties screwed in back under the joints in the rails. By this time it was getting late in the day and we were running out of light so we picked up and went to dinner at Kings Hawaiian restaurant. I (Tom) had there Hawaiian style prime rib and it was very good.

Sunday 4-8-12 Tom got a good early start and set up a pop-up tent top as a cover from the sun that he could move back and forth over the track he was working on. Tom put all the ties in under the joints tightened all of the screws on the inside rail and then loosened all the screws on the out side rail, he then when back to the switch coming off the main line, in front of the new depot, and started bending the rail using the template he previously rolled.  After working the track back and forth a few times, all finely looked good with the turn.

Tom then removed two more track panels and set the switch back in with one straight panel between the end of the turn and the switch. Lately we have fond that if theres room its best to have one 10-15 foot straight track between the end of a turn and a switch. This switch hooks to a switch on the return track and these two switches make a cross over that makes up a Y track so members can turn entire trains. The switch on the return track will be moved up a few track panels so that it matches up with this switch in the next few weeks, so we have the Y track back up and running.

After getting all of the track installed, the up track turn had about 26 inches between it and the down track from outside rail to outside rail which will work but it will be close for the 3 3/4" scale locos if they pass at that point at the same time. So I think it well be best to put in a "Yield To Oncoming Trains" sign on the up track at this point just to be safe.

Tom started installing 16" stakes (old cut off rail) in the ground on the outside end of the ties about three feet apart all the way around the outside of the turn thinking it will help hold the track in place.  About this time Howie Hueler showed up and went to work tightening up all of the screws on the outside rail. Then Steve Claude showed up and helped Tom and Howie scrape up the old ballast stone from the old rail bed and put it on the reset track.

Steve drove the stakes down flush with the top of the ties. After that Howie and Steve ran the work train over the (new) reset turn as a test and all went well.  They then went down the Crenshaw line and put the big stump that had been sitting by the windshield wiper table since Tom had removed it form the end of Crenshaw line a year or so ago and left at that spot. It was a good size stump maybe 3 feet across wet and vary heavy when removed from the ground, but now it had dried out so Steve and Howie say they had no problem moving it with a flat car down to the bush pile by the club house. While they were moving the stump, Tom stayed behind and leveled the rail from side to side on the track on the reset turn track and replaced the wood chips and some dirt on the inside of the turn to try to keep the ballast stone in place, and make for short step down off a car if someone had to get off in the turn, as that may happen since it is close to the depot.

Tom then started to put stuff away but as there was still some day light left and he moved the flat car dump boxes from the yard to over next to the club house so it cleans up the yard and Tim will be soon putting down track where they were siting so he can get to his car barn.

Tom also moved a lot of stuff to the side of the yard and now and it looks much cleaner. He also emptied the trash cans and removed the last of the trash laying by the side of the club house that was left over from cleaning out the club house a few mouths ago. Hauling stuff over to the trash bin is an ongoing thing as in the past and sometimes now items have been left at the club thinking we could use it for some project that never happened, or it replaces something old with some thing less old and the old items gets left out.

Tom then went back and put the tractor back by the club house then he watered down the new ballasted track on the turn so it will set in before the run day in a few weeks. It was a few long days of doing projects that were not always much fun but we got it  done.

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On Saturday 4-14-12 Tom Downing moved the crossover switch on the Crenshaw return track to match up with the switch that was moved last weekend on the outbound track. Phil Cohen helped get the track ballasted back in. Tom will have to go back and do a fine adjustment to these switches, but they are good to go for now.

On Sunday 4-15-12 Rory Hawkins and Tom Downing replaced a switch in the yard for the track that is used to store the riding cars and the work cars in the club car barn. Tom built the new switch from parts from an old worn out main line switch. This new switch will remove a tight S turn in the yard that would  often derail cars. Tom will have to go back and put lighter springs in the switch point machine, as the old mainline springs tend to derail some of the lighter cars. He will also try to build a few kick type switch machines for some of the yard switches to replace some of the old non sprung switch machines, and try to reduce some of the derailments we have in the yard.

On Sunday Jim Berryman ran his large 3 3/4" scale RMI diesel over the new reset Crenshaw turn and said all went good.  
 
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Well it has been since 4-14 -12 that I last did an update. Other projects at the club and my other hobby of running a race car have stopped me from working on the Crenshaw extension, but we are back at it now.

Myself, Dale, Brandon, and Robert Lee worked at clearing the line from the wiper turn table to the end. Then on the 8-16-14 run day Jim B. and I ran our trains on it for the run day. However, after in the day the switches went out of line causing problems. It looked like it was a heat kink it the rail.

On Saturday 9-6-14 my son Wyatt, me and new member Brandon worked at getting  both tracks cleared off past the switches. We got the dirt and wood chips leveled on both sides of the tracks so someone can walk beside the train if need be. Just a good safety thing I like to do if we can fit it in.

After working for an hour or so it was lunch time and the nice thing about being at the end of the Crenshaw line is that there is a gate in the  fence back 250' from the end for which I have the key. There are many food places just a short walk away.So the boys and I went to Lee's Sandwiches and had some spicy hot sandwiches then back to work.

I cut about 3/8" gap in the rails between the switches then aligned the switches and adjusted them. All seemed good so we staked the switch in a few places to try to keep them from moving around.

Our club VP Phil Cohen came by to help and we worked hard at getting the two sidings cleared and filled the ditches left over ballast from when we put in the tracks so riders can get off the car and turn around and get back on and not fall in a hole or ditch.

I didn't get a photo of when we were done as it was 9 PM and dark. We just had the street lights but boy the weather was so nice that night it wasn't bad being out there working on track. I had brought my folding chairs so we all could sit and take some breaks. If we had a BBQ and some beer we would have been all set! LOL

On the following day,  Sunday 9-7-14 run day, I ran my loco all the way to the end all day. We then had the riders get off and turn around and get back on the cars. Wyatt my conductor, would walk in front of the first car as I backed up the train all the way to the wiper turn table then we would turn the loco as the riders sat on the cars and watched us turning the loco around. We would then couple up and go on for the rest of their train ride. It worked well, but a turn table at the end would be better with less stopping.

Next I will start at building the turn table at the end of the Crenshaw track. We are thinking of a gallows type table. I have looked at other tables guys have built so I have something to go by. Right now I'm thinking of having a center pin in a 12"  cement Sonotube 3' deep, then a 5 or 6 foot rail ring for the weight of the table to ride on  with a 20 foot diameter ring rail for the ends of the table to ride on.  The table itself will be steel 6" channel while the rest of the beams will be wood and just for looks as the steel base will be doing all the work. But this may all change as I build it I guess we will see.

I still have to add one more siding track and after getting the ground all cleaned up down at the end of the track Phil seemed to think there was room for a track on the left side of the two siding tracks now there. I was planning on putting one more track on the right hand side  but it may work better on the left and that leaves us more room for a loading platform if someday we get to put a station in down there.

I think we well get a lot of riders for our trains as it is right at a stop light on Crenshaw Ave and there is a park parking lot right there too. All we would need is a few cement walkways, a loading pad and two gates and we are good to go. We will propose it to the city and see what they say. Time will tell but they have seemed very open to the plan when we talked to them about it.

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